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My Lords consider that it would improve the discipline of Her Majesty's ships and be in other respects advantageous to the service, to establish a class of chief petty officer; they therefore direct that the following be established accordingly:. Petty officers who enter for continuous service are to carry their denominations as chief, first, or second class petty officers from ship to ship; it being left open to the captains of the ships which they may join to assign the specific rating best suited to the character and abilities of the individuals.

Examination for the rating of petty officers: Seamen before being promoted to the rating of petty officer, are to be examined by the following officers: In rating petty officers, a preference is to be given to men who have entered for continuous service.

The above officers are to sign the ticket of examination, which should be retained in the captain's office, appended to the description-book; to be produced to any flag or other officer who may muster or inspect the ship. As an encouragement to deserving petty officers, an increase is to be made, as follows, in the number who are eligible to be recommended for good-conduct gratuities, when ships are paid off after three years' service, or in proportion for a less period, as at present regulated.

Petty officers and seamen who enter for continuous service may be permitted to purchase their discharge according to the following scale:.

All men and boys who enter or re-enter the Navy, under the conditions and for the periods of continuous and general service, already stated, will be allowed pensions after 20 years service from the age of 18, instead of after 21 years service from the age of 20, as at present. Their Lordships also reserve to themselves a discretionary power of awarding pensions of 6d a day each, after ten years service, from the age of 18, and pensions of 8d a day each, after 15 years service from the same age, to all men now in, or who may hereafter enter the Navy, whenever their Lordships may think proper to do so.

All men who may be thus granted pensions after 10, 15 or 20 years' service will be held liable, under the 13th clause of the Pensions Regulations dated the 1st January , to serve again in the Navy if required, in the event of an armament, or war; and when so serving, will be allowed their Pensions, and the Pay of the ratings they may hold. The time any continuous service man may serve after the age of 18, will count for pension without reference to the rating held.

Time served in the Navy under the existing system will be allowed to count with time under the new system, in awarding the above pension.

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The circumstances of a man not having completed the specific term of continuous service under the new system for which he entered, will not preclude his being granted a pension after 10 or 15 years combined service, whenever their Lordships shall think proper to grant pensions after those periods. Petty officers who have completed 15 or 20 years' service will, when pensioned, be granted double the present allowance for the time they have served as a petty officer, provided they shall have entered, and served for one continuous period of not less than ten years, unless invalided for wounds or hurts received on duty; that they shall have been discharged with the rating of petty officer; and that their character in such rating shall have been "very good".

In order that seamen may avail themselves of the advantages contingent upon the new terms,, my Lords desire that these advantages be distinctly explained to them. They may be briefly recapitulated as follows:. Continuous service men will be entitled to the rates of pay stated at page Pensions will be granted after 20 years' service from the age of 18, instead of after 21 years from the age of 20; and as leave will be allowed when Ships are paid off, during which time and pay will be continued, it follows that seamen entering under or about the age of 18, will receive the same amount of pension for less than 19 years actual service than they would have received under the present system for 23 years actual service.

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Pensions may also be awarded after 10 and 15 years' service from the age of Thus seamen may be granted pensions at the ages of 28, 33 and 38 respectively, instead of 43 or 44, the average age at which long service pensions are now awarded. The allowance for time served as a petty officer will, in awarding pensions, be doubled to men who ender for 10 years continuous and general service. Greater permanency will be given to a man's connexion with the Naval Service. On returning from leave he will be entered on board a Flag-ship without the loss of a day's time or pay, instead of being frequently exposed to inconvenience and distress from his not being able to enter a ship fitting out.

My Lords highly appreciate the valuable services rendered by the warrant officers of the Navy, and the zeal with which their important duties are usually performed; and as a mark of their approbation of such services, they are pleased to direct that the pay of these officers be increased as follows:. Warrant officers who are still paid for particular rates of ships according to the regulations in force prior to the Order in Council of 28 April will be allowed the following increased scale of harbour service pay:. My Lords desire it may be distinctly explained to the warrant officer, individually, that in awarding the above liberal scale of pay, their Lordships have been desirous not only of adequately rewarding their services, but also of enabling them to make provision, by insurance or otherwise, for their widows; and my Lords confidently rely upon the Warrant Officers giving effect to their Lordships' intention in this respect.

In the cases of officers of exemplary character and conduct, two years harbour service are, prospectively, to be considered, in awarding pensions, as equal to one year's sea service; in lieu of the proportion of three to one, as at present.

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The additional pay of warrant officers, is to commence on the 1st July next; and if those officers who may draw bills shall, before the receipt of this circular, have drawn them for the period commencing the 1st of July, the difference of pay may be added to the next bills they may draw. Having reference to the increased responsibility attaching to the situations of chief and commissioned boatmen, their Lordships are pleased to direct that men appointed from the Naval Service shall, when pensioned, be allowed to count service in the former capacity as 1st class and in the latter as 2nd class petty officers time upon the present scale.

Coast-guard men from the Naval Service, when granted gratuities instead of pensions, are to be placed on the same footing as seamen. Time in the Coast-Guard, after a combined service of twenty-one years, is to count towards higher rates of pension, as if served in the Royal Navy; time served as chief and commissioned boatmen being subject to the rule laid down in the foregoing clause. Ten years' service in the Navy, from the age of 18 instead of 7, in man's rating as now regulated , is to be the required term of service, previous to admission into the Coast-guard; appointments thereto are to be open to ordinary seamen, of thoroughly good conduct.

Coast-guard men are to be permitted to wear the good conduct badges or other distinctive marks they have obtained in the Royal Navy, but are not entitled to the additional pay. The several distinctive badges referred to in the preceding regulations, will be forwarded to the out-ports, and will be a follows, embroidered in gold:.

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These regulations are to take effect on and after the 1st July next; except as regards men entering for continuous service on Foreign Stations, where they are to commence so soon as they are understood by the men, and they volunteer for continuous service; and all existing regulations not cancelled or modified by those now promulgated are to remain in force. Great care is to be taken that no men of indifferent character are received for continuous service, or who are constitutionally or otherwise unfit, and in the rating of men strict attention is to be given to their qualifications.

In every case in which a man enters for continuous service under the foregoing regulations, the form No 95 is to be filled up and forwarded, with as little delay as possible, to the Secretary of the Admiralty, for the Accountant-General of the Navy. The Royal Naval Service The seamen of the present day are greatly improved in intelligence compared with those of any former period in the services of this country.

Every new measure and every Admiralty Circular is now carefully perused, and seamen will not now enter to serve in the fleet until they fully comprehend the duty they are to perform, the remuneration they will receive, and the treatment they will experience on board the ships of war or war steamers in which they may have to serve on joining the Royal Navy. Their Lordships have instructed their Secretary to answer the said questions, which have been done in the following: Questions raised on Circular No.

Whether men entering for continuous service would interfere with their entering for the Excellent [RN gunnery training ship at Portsmouth]? Whether men can now enter? The periods of service for the Excellent will terminate with the periods of continuous service. Whether 3 years' service, in ship then in would reckon as part of 40 years' service, or other period?

The time to be so served must reckon from the date of volunteering for continuous service. The higher rates for petty time, when pensioned, can be given only to men who enter for 10 years, and serve for that period of continuous service. Whether on paying off they would be allowed to join the guardship nearest their houses at the expiration of their leave? CPOs were expected to share in the administrative work associated with the Division. Typical early CPOs were: Between and the adoption of the Class I rig in the Uniform Regulations of 30 Sept , the CPO wore a badge of rank on his left arm consisting of an anchor surmounted by a crown surrounded by laurel, the laurel being changed to oak in It should be noted that from the CPO was authorized to wear gilt buttons on his jackets instead of the black buttons worn by other ratings.

When the fore and aft rig with peaked cap was adopted for the CPO under the Uniform Regulations of 7 May , he was given a circular cap badge with a silver anchor surmounted by a gilt crown on a navy blue velvet ground edged with a narrow ring of gilt embroidery.

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This badge was adapted from that authorised for ERAs in which had a gold crown and anchor with a gilt ring. After the CPO shifted into the Class I fore and aft rig in he did not wear any badge of rank other than the cap badge. His rank was otherwise denoted by the wearing of small non-substantive badges on the tips of the jacket collars.

Both of these cap badges are still in use. In all CPOs were authorized to wear three buttons in a horizontal row on the face of the jacket sleeves about three inches above the cuff edge as previously worn by Chief ERAs and some senior Artisans. The non-sub badges on the collar tips were retained. The badge of distinction, or rank, was centred on the left sleeve midway between shoulder seam and elbow. Good Conduct badges were centred in line below the badge of distinction. Originally these badges were of white cloth for wear on blue clothing.

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No colour was specified for white clothing. In the white badges were replaced by embroidered red ones and by this time embroidered blue badges were being worn on white clothing. All badges were standardized in and it was not until then that a real uniformity of badges was established. In gold badges were authorized for wear on pea jackets. From to the single anchor "killick" or "hook" badge originally denoted the PO2. From to the single anchor surmounted by a crown was the badge of the PO1.

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From to it was the badge of the PO2. When the PO2 was discontinued this badge was abolished. From to the badge of the PO 1st Class and from to the present the badge of the Petty Officer. With appropriate crown, that depicted is correct for the period From to the badge of the Chief PO was the anchor and crown surrounded by oak leaves. Originally laurel leaves; these were changed to oak in It should be noted that during this period the CPO wore Good Conduct badges in common with other seamen. When he shifted into Class I rig in these were no longer worn, although they were still awarded and paid for.

With appropriate crown, that depicted is the one adopted in Crab Newbie Mar 29, Pardon my ignorance, but could anybody tell me when the Navy stopped recruiting 'boy sailors? In something like they changed the term "boy seaman" to "junior seaman".

I believe they stopped recruiting them in when the school leaving age was risen to ? Nutty GCM Mar 29, Bergen ADC Mar 30, I regret that he has since died, but I recommend his case for special recognition by justice to his memory and as an acknowledgement of the high example set by him. Is the present S still made of linen?

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